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 Port Ratings
Author: Ephraim F. Moya 
Date:   26-07-05 23:12

The very first thing I saw when I first started using FreeBSD was the sheer number of ports available. If you look for any particular program you often get as many as 25 listings. There is no way of evaluating them. With this in mind I suggest:

1) Count the number of times any particular port is downloaded and post that number.

2) Count the number of times a particular port description is read and post that number.

These two numbers would go a long way to help choose between many similar sounding ports. These two numbers are available at Sourceforge and are VERY helpful.



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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Dan 
Date:   27-07-05 12:12

Ephraim F. Moya wrote:

> The very first thing I saw when I first started using FreeBSD
> was the sheer number of ports available. If you look for any
> particular program you often get as many as 25 listings. There
> is no way of evaluating them. With this in mind I suggest:
>
> 1) Count the number of times any particular port is downloaded
> and post that number.

FreshPorts has no access to this information. You don't "download" a port. Usually, you cvsup. FreshPorts has nothing to download.

> 2) Count the number of times a particular port description is
> read and post that number.

See /stats/

> These two numbers would go a long way to help choose between
> many similar sounding ports. These two numbers are available at
> Sourceforge and are VERY helpful.

How important is popularity?

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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Ephraim F. Moya 
Date:   27-07-05 14:03

What I'm trying to get is some way to choose one over another. Is there a way of doing that?

I just copied what sourceforge does because I find what they do very handy. Just on the off-chance that other people may know more than I do.

What difference does it make how I get the software? CVSUP or some other way. Surely you can count either way.



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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Dan 
Date:   27-07-05 14:09

Ephraim F. Moya wrote:

> What I'm trying to get is some way to choose one over another.
> Is there a way of doing that?

I think you want statisitics to help you decide.

> I just copied what sourceforge does because I find what they do
> very handy. Just on the off-chance that other people may know
> more than I do.

OK.

> What difference does it make how I get the software? CVSUP or
> some other way. Surely you can count either way.

No, we can't count downloads. I think you misunderstand how cvsup works and how FreshPorts works. The two are completely separately.

There is no way, that I know of, for me to know how many downloads occur. They don't download from FreshPorts.

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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Ephraim F. Moya 
Date:   27-07-05 20:48

Maybe you can make a deal with FreeBSD. Or: Can you suggest a way for me to evaluate the ports. Or do I need to download and try them all?

What started this whole thing with me is that I want an email pair, pop and smtp. Who knows? Just reading the port descriptions does not help. So I'm left asking 'experts' who all have different advice. If you come back with your own advice, what do you base it on?



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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Dan 
Date:   27-07-05 21:25

Ephraim F. Moya wrote:

> Maybe you can make a deal with FreeBSD.

They won't know.

When you fetch the source for a port, it might come directly from the home page for the website. In which case, FreeBSD doesn't know anything about it. It might come from any one of the many FreeBSD mirrors, each of which is independently administered. To combine the statistics from each mirror is not a trivial task. However, if someone was to present me with the data in an appropriate form, I'd consider including it.

> Or: Can you suggest away for me to evaluate the ports.

Ask your friends. Search using Google.

> Or do I need to download and try them all?

If you want.


> What started this whole thing with me is that I want an email
> pair, pop and smtp. Who knows? Just reading the port
> descriptions does not help. So I'm left asking 'experts' who
> all have different advice. If you come back with your own
> advice, what do you base it on?

I ask around.

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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Ephraim F. Moya 
Date:   28-07-05 01:30

Why are you resisting so hard?

Doesn't my request seem reasonable? It does to me.



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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Dan 
Date:   28-07-05 10:01

Ephraim F. Moya wrote:

> Why are you resisting so hard?

Because what you are asking is so hard to accomplish.

> Doesn't my request seem reasonable? It does to me.

Please read everything I've said. I'm telling you it cannot be done given the access to data that would be required.

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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Dan 
Date:   28-07-05 13:26

Or, to put it another way:

Ephraim F. Moya wrote:

> Why are you resisting so hard?

What makes you think I'm resisting? You show me how what you want can be accomplished and I'll listen to you. So far, all you've done is tell me you want something. When I tell you I don't know how it can be done, you tell me I'm resisting... Go figure.

> Doesn't my request seem reasonable? It does to me.

The only thing you've asked for that I know can be done is page views. I suggest that page views aren't the best indication of a "port rating".

Have you seen the list of watched ports in the Graphs? That gives you a short indication of what ports people watch.

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 Re: Port Ratings
Author: Klaus_1250 
Date:   15-08-05 22:09

Dan wrote:

> Have you seen the list of watched ports in the Graphs? That
> gives you a short indication of what ports people watch.

It would be nice if this could be expanded to a per-category basis. Personally, I'm quite interested to see for instance, with are the most watched port from sysutils, security, etc, to see if I missed out on something.

I currently try to log in daily to see if there are commits to interesting/usefull.alternative ports, but that isn't really efficient :-(

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